aromagal
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![[*]](./images/iconic/default_icon.gif) posted on 12-1-2009 at 10:34 PM |
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Vanilla Vent
Grrrrr! I can't get the darn vanilla bourbon to mix with the PA. I've heated it, heated the blend, added benzoin, and it still just sits there at the
bottom of the bottle!  Like a big, brown, blob! Sure it smells nice, but
when will it melt?
So, how do I get this stuff to cooperate with me? Or do I need something other than resin for perfume-making?
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| posted on 27-1-2009 at 03:03 PM |
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Gosh, 33 views and not one response. That's discouraging. 
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| posted on 30-1-2009 at 05:21 PM |
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Hi aromagal. Sorry I see this one. I also found the same thing with the bourbon vanilla. Is it an absolute? Vanilla is one of those essences that
seems to sit as a blob in alcohol. It also sits as a blob in oil. I think the only thing to do is leave the blend to age and the filter or pour off
once the vanilla has infused.
Sorry I couldn't be more helpful.
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| posted on 31-1-2009 at 05:39 PM |
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Thanks Ruth. Yes, the vanilla remains in a blob in either FCO, jojoba, or PA. Straining just removes the fragrance. I guess it is something I will
have to live with.
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| posted on 31-1-2009 at 06:26 PM |
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You could always try the Co2 extract which apparently dissolves in oil, you could also purchase some vanilla powder and tincture it in alcohol. There
is also the ole resin which should disolve in alcohol.
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| posted on 31-1-2009 at 06:28 PM |
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You could always try the Co2 extract which apparently dissolves in oil, you could also purchase some vanilla powder and tincture it in alcohol. There
is also the ole resin which should disolve in alcohol.
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| posted on 1-2-2009 at 12:33 AM |
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Ruth, my vanilla is a oleoresin 20 fold. Whatever the latter part means. Wouldn't a Co2 extract be like the food-grade stuff we use in cakes and
cookies?
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| posted on 1-2-2009 at 12:42 PM |
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Nah, there are lots of natural perfumers essences available in CO2 extract. Here look on Eden Botanicals website and it says:
"About CO2 Extracts CO2 Extracts, Supercritical CO2 Extracts and CO2 Essential Oils
CO2 extracts, also known as supercritical extracts or supercritical fluid CO 2 extracts, are extremely pure plant extracts produced from a relatively
new and highly efficient extraction process. CO2 extraction produces superior herbal extracts for use in herbal medicine as well as aromatherapy and
natural perfumery. Essential oils have traditionally been derived using either steam or hydro distillation, or extracted using chemical solvents such
as hexane, heptane or ethanol. The supercritical CO2 extract and its process have many benefits over the traditional distillation processes, which
should be taken into consideration when choosing an essential oil. Below you will find more information regarding the supercritical process and CO2
essential oils."
I know this still doesn't help you with your vanilla problem though but if you were blending in oil it might work. For alcohol try making a very
strong vanilla tincture and filtering after 6 weeks.
Does the vanilla you have dissolve in water?
I found a bit here on vanilla oleoresin. She says that the 20 Fold thing means the scent is concentrated 20 times.
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| posted on 1-2-2009 at 03:00 PM |
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The CO2, if gently warmed, will dissolve in warmed carrier oils... as a rule, none of the CO2's will dissolve well in alcohol. Wendy, at
Aroma-web, has posted a new article about working with thick eo's, absolutes, etc. Might help some. http://www.aromaweb.com/articles/workingwiththickessentialoils.asp
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| posted on 1-2-2009 at 08:06 PM |
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I had no luck with carrier oils or PAs with this vanilla. I had the same problem with labdunum resin which sat at the bottom in a blob as well. I will
give the co2 a try.
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